ITG BTP Golds?

[DredJAw]

Ok im having a devil of a time figuring out which are golds and which aren't (by looking at them). I've also heard the card does not indicate it anywhere.

For instance:

Both auctions say card is out of 30 but I clearly see a difference (maybe its just the scan?).

Anyways, any help?

 

[DredJAw]

Also, pretty silly how they made a silver version /30 and a gold version /10.

 

[DredJAw]

Horrible job by ITG with the golds in this set. Easiest way to tell is the targets in the corner. The golds are gold, and the regs are silver:

Gold:

and another Gold:

So clearly the 2nd card in my 1st post is the Gold version?

I think its silly how they made a silver and gold to begin with.

 

[DredJAw]

No...both are silver in your post. Look at the 6 targets around the card (3 on the left side and 3 on the right). You'll see yours are silver.

Now you done gone and got me confused

*scratches head

 

[DredJAw]

ok I think I see it.

ITG really messed this one up

 

[The Great Zo]

Yeah, this whole Silver/Gold scheme is embarassingly bad. But Chris is right, both of yours are silvers.

 

[Harris Sports Cards]

The silver and gold thing has been used for WAY too long as it is and they sure aren't making it any easier to tell the difference between the two. I know ITG doesn't want to serial # things because of cost, but if they would just serial # the golds it would make it much easier to differentiate. I would bet the golds would be more valuable as well, everyone likes to have the serial # on the card instead of /10.

Josh

 

[The Great Zo]

Josh, I'm not sure if you've seen the 06-07 H&P and BTP gold cards, but they don't even say "/10" anymore. The only way to differentiate is to somehow have the knowledge of what little tiny features on the card are supposed to be silver or gold.

The only place that print runs are listed is online.

The only place that a "decoder" can be found to determine Silver Or Gold is by careful comparison or asking someone online who has already figured it out.

In the case of the regular jersey/emblem/number cards, the only way to tell is by way of a foil stamp -- which means not even a PICTURE of the card will be able to tell you what version it is, since we all know that foil doesn't scan worth a darn.

I've been a big supporter of ITG for as long as they've been around, but this is one concept that irks me as much as almost anything UD's done. There are countless sellers on ebay listing "gold Stick/Jersey" cards that are the silver versions, or listing gold cards as silvers because they can't make out the minute differences. And while I'll usually find the seller at fault for not paying attention, I just can't here. No one should have to work this hard to figure out what parallel version they pulled. If ITG wants some practical, constructive criticism -- something they can put to use in future sets -- I'd be happy to give it to them and be as calm, and rational as necessary. Because I do want this company to succeed. The damage is already done with this set though...

Sorry, rant done.

 

[weasel-king]

I don't see how there would be a big expense in adding the generic "1 of 10" or "1 of 30" on the reverse. It's one additional line of type-set, and the backs look pretty empty in most cases these days anyway.

It would be one thing if this was the first year it happened, but it's not. As Andy mentioned, scanning oftentimes does not help out, and with no indication on the reverse, sellers offering scans of those aren't helping either.

Case in point--I was also going to add that not only are the targets silver/gold, but the goalie silhouette is as well. However, in the 2nd scan of the OP the goalie looks goldish. Oh well.

 

[MGiuseffi1969]

A bad job with the golds this year for sure by ITG, but on the flip side there are some nice possible steals out there if you can figure out the golds. Mike

 

[stab107]

I am having a heck of a time figuring out whether my MA Fleury double memorabilia is gold or not. The Between The Pipes lettering is gold, along with the Memorabilia lettering but the Double lettering is silver. The card itself also has a very obvious gold tint to it. Most of the ones I have seen on the bay show the opposite: silver on BTP, Memorabilia and card surface with Double being gold.

As much as I love this set it drives me nuts that they couldn't have spent a few extra bucks to number the gold versions. I don't understand why they wouldn't considering they know that collectors love low numbered cards.

 

[stab107]

Well, for whatever reason the scans come out with those letters gold (DOUBLE)...whereas from the photos I took mine come out clearly silver:

but all the other letters are gold...

 

[Khabby]

Hasek and Between-The-Pipes are in Gold,and theres more gold on top of card

Parent and Between -The-Pipes are in Siver as is the card

 

[The Great Zo]

The Double Memorabilia set has been THE most difficult to figure out.

My best guess is this: The "Gold" version is the one with gold everywhere except the words "double memorabilia". All four in the picture Chris posted are Silver (the tinting of the photograph is weird on the Luongo card -- the whole thing looks brown). The Fleury that was posted is the Gold version.

 

[The Great Zo]

I'm just looking at the "DOUBLE" wording, which should be Silver on the "Gold" card. It looks gold in both versions.

 

[stab107]

I think the Luongo is gold as well. Here is another example I found on the bay:

the double still scans the same color in both but all the other letters scan differently, along with the backgrounds, and these two cards appear to be fromt he same scan.

I'm leaning towards my Fleury being gold but the double lettering being silver and not gold tinted is driving me nuts.

edit: vegas be faster than I! But I guess this scan is ok to be on page two anyway.

 

[The Great Zo]

It's tough to pick out a real indicator on those. Even the photographs on the Brodeur and Hextall look tinted differently so there's some photographic oddities going on there too. I guess the best guess at this point is that the poor photograph has led the "DOUBLE" wording on the Gold card (which should be silver) to look gold.

What a headache.

 

[The Great Zo]

The words "Between The Pipes" being tinted differently is a common theme, but on some sets they don't change color at all. On the ones where they DO change color, it's always a good indicator.