Looking to purchase new skates HELP!

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Does anyone have any recommendations for a hockey skate that fits an experienced player (10+ years competitive) with a wider foot?

Are there any good hockey equipment review sites out there?

Cheers,
Darin
 
Bauer's Supreme and ONE90 skates fit average to wide feet. Their Vapor line runs a little narrower, fitting narrow and average feet best. Most other Bauer skates will work best for a lower instep.

Mission's skates also run somewhat narrow but will accommodate a bit higher instep than Bauer's skates do.

Graf skates come in a number of different styles which will accommodate numerous foot shapes. The Graf number system designates the stiffness and shape of the skate boot. The first digit on the skate is the boot level. A G or 7 describe an elite level skate. A 6 would be advanced, 5 intermediate, etc.

The second part of the number designates the last, or shape, of the foot the boot fits. A skate ending in 35 would fit a narrow low volume foot. 03, 04 and 05 are progressively wider skates with the 04 being average width. The 09 is a high volume skate for players with thick, wide feet. Lastly, the 07 is a special skate made for players with ankle injuries allowing for a significant amount of forward flex.

Thus a Graf 709 is an elite level skate for wide, thick feet. A 503 is an intermediate skate for people with narrow to average width feet. Further setting Graf apart is the fact that they are one of the only companies offering most of their skates in 3 different widths, so if you find Bauer and Mission too wide, Grafs in a narrow width might be the best bet.

Graf’s wide skates are generally similar to an Easton. Take your time when trying on Graf skates. They have many models and many different cuts of boots. Make sure you try on the model that you are thinking of buying, as another model will likely fit much differently.

CCM's Vector line is something of an intermediate width skate which will cover a fair range of foot shapes but fits more narrowly than the discontinued Tacks line did.

Easton skates are best for fairly wide feet. The Easton models have a little bit narrower toes than do some wide models of skates. Their skates aren’t great for players with higher insteps.

RBK makes some of their models in three widths becoming only the second major skate maker (after Graf) to do so. The basic RBK skates fit exactly the same as CCM’s Vector line. (And why wouldn’t they as RBK owns CCM?) However, with a narrow width available in the high-end models they offer an fit option.

Nike has generally been fairly wide, but is all over the map by model year. The Flexlights feature a little less room in the toecap area and improved overall fit from previous models, but is still one of the widest brands on the market. Instep room in Nike’s is average.


my feet are somewhere in between - i find my bauers are quite nice. i play about twice a week so they get a lot of wear. i might check out the ccm vectors soon...i can let you know how those are.
 
Yea, I saw the same post from a user on epinions.com. I'm leaning towards the CCM Vector 6.0se but I think they are geared towards the lower-end player. Plus it doesn't help that there are very few reviews on skates out there....

I currently have Bauers and they are just way too narrow for my feet (and make it difficult to play a full game).
 
I wonder how close the tacks and vector boots are? I've heard rumors that vector's are a little narrower, but no confirmations of that yet.
 
Well I went with the Vector 6.0se since they were offered for $129.95 at hockeymonkey.com. Not bad considering retail was $250 or so. I just hope they are a durable skate.
 
I have CCM Kevlar tacks that I made into rollerblades for roller hockey and its the best skate I ever had .......my Tacks Ice Skates I still have and still hold strong and are atleast 12 years old
 
Wide feet - CCM is the way to go unless you can find a Bauer EE width. Don't know about Mission or Easton, but one I'm going to try out is Kor. http://www.korhockey.com/ - one piece skate and very light
 
I already have ee bauer skates and they weren't wide enough. I hope the CCMs in an e width will work....
 
i bought a pair of nike bauer vapor viii yesterday and i wore them last night to play...very comfortable. they had vector 4.0 and 6.0 at the store but i changed my mind at the 11th hour and because i like the way my nike rollerblades felt, i decided to give the vapors a shot.
 
I wear easton 1300c customs and love them.

You can buy skates online alot cheaper but I suggest you go to a store and try on a few different styles first, go to a shop with experienced staff. I went to a shop tried some stuff on and decided what I liked, I went home and bought the skates online and saved a couple hundred bucks...I tipped the sales guy at the shop $20 and told him my intentions, he appreciated it since he worked on commission. Careful buying Grafs without first reading the description, alot of them a very narrow.
 
yea careful with Grafs .....esp since they are EXPENSIVE.....Ill say it again CCMs are my lifeblood skatewise ......wont wear anything else
 
Thanks for all the info. My skates are arriving tomorrow....I will let you know how they work out.

Cheers,
Darin
 
An experienced player should not be caught dead in Vapor 6.0s at a discount price of $129.99. The best thing to do would have been to buy a high end skate with a boot that is not only thick, but once baked will move freely instead of just stand still like a Graf (which need to be baked for over an hour). I honestly think that you made a bad choice and really lacked looking into this ordeal.
Rob
 
By the way, make up for lost ground by getting a high priced insert made by Dr. Scholls. It will be the best $25.00 you ever spend and you can get the pad baked with your skates for an extra fit. Also make sure you get the proper blade cut based on your game, not just the "I need these sharpened" cut. Finally, make sure that you get the laces you want on the skate before baking the boot. It will pay off as the laces will become easier to tighten and a tight skate is a perfect skate.
Rob
 
An experienced player should not be caught dead in Vapor 6.0s at a discount price of $129.99. The best thing to do would have been to buy a high end skate with a boot that is not only thick, but once baked will move freely instead of just stand still like a Graf (which need to be baked for over an hour). I honestly think that you made a bad choice and really lacked looking into this ordeal.
Rob

I may be an experienced player but only play in a moderately competitive league. Why are the Vector 6.0se skates so bad? btw...I am taking them to the local hockey shop to get them baked.
 
You will find out once you wear them that the Vapor 6.0 boot has no padding whatsoever past the heel. You are going to experience rubbing just before your toes, heavy skin blisters in the same place, and if any puck hits you; you are done. I was testing the skate out over a year ago and just felt so bad in them.
If you have been paying attention to new skates they are all really big on mentioning ankle bite from the tongue and laces. You are going to experience a lot of high ankle bite.
The laces that come one the skate are terrible and will literally break in half, and the lace holes get very sharp, lose their rivets, and cut and pair of laces that you have purchased and woven in.
The other giant problem is that the skate is completely flat foot. If you are a high power defenseman or an aggressive offenseman, you are going to be caught flat footed any time you are not moving your feet as Bauer really skipped out on new technology. Not to mention the 6.0 is about a year and a half old or more.
Basically what I am saying is when you buy a new skate you want a long lasting boot with a fair pivot and arch to help you run (if you are experienced you know what I mean), enough padding to have a full skate bake completed, and enough to take the brunt of a stinger that somehow finds your toe. You also want comfort so that if need be you can play in single, double, triple overtime and then go to a shootout feeling stellar. The 6.0 does not offer any of those and because you purchased the lower line of the skate, you will probably take more of a hit than I am explaining.
I am a very experienced defenseman who plays hard on the attack, and relies on his solid fundamentals to keep the opponent off of the score sheet. I am looked upon to score goals, make pretty plays, pull forwards towards me and make them pay, all this while I leave myself enough room to get back on defense should something go wrong with the man covering my point, because as a high end player you are not expected to make mistakes. I use a Mission Fuel 110 XP with a pitch blade system set to even while I have my blades cut to a 3/4'', 10.5' radius, with front end lean on my custom profiling. When I pitch my blade to -1 everything changes and I can attack as hard as I want on my toes, retreat as hard as I want, and sit down while skating backwards because of a flat lean in the heels. I also have heel heavy pads in my boot, and waxed laces so that I can get my skate extra tight the way it should be. When you bake a waxed lace it becomes soft and manageable. When you bake a thick insert it become soft and stays soft while also taking the exact definition of bottom side of your foot. I also have a thick boot with a hard external feel, but I found out that my boot would become much more soft after baking. Once baked, my skate truly fits like a cast mold around my foot, but still has all the padding I need to take a shot in the foot without ending my season.
You need to know what kind of player you are, and you need to make sure that is how your coaches intend on using you in the game setting, before you buy your skates. Getting a bargain is not always the best bargain and now that you made the choice that you did it will help a lot to learn about sharpening blades, baking your skates, and adding comfort plus precision inside the boot. Laces are more than strings.
Rob
 
Thanks for the in-depth explanation....however, for clarification sake, are you referring to the Bauer Vapor 6.0 or the CCM Vector 6.0se?

Cheers,
Darin
 
Darin,
I was referring to the Vapor 6.0, but you are going to find the same qualities in the CCM Vector 6.0 with the exception of the padding which will not give you so much a blister as a cut in the same area, and the toe cap which is a little worst on the CCM. A better choice, but everything I said is still just about the same on either skate. Like I said, expect a cutting instead of a burning, and expect to feel the puck a little more towards the front, but less than the Vapor towards the back. The boot is a little bit better, but it will still have a hard bottom and you will probably feel off set even after baking them once. It is still a flat foot.
Rob
 
Thanks for all the advice Rob, this is helping a lot. As experienced that I am, I guess I didn't put as much emphasis on my skates as I probably should have.

Based on what you know of me 29 yo, 5'08", 185lbs, extra wide feet and a 9.0 shoe, what type of skate would you recommend that is value added for a player who plans on playing in a competitive beer league once a week?

Cheers,
Darin
 

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