Time for NHL to change video review

[CKcardtrader]

Last night we seen the worst case scenario with the NHL's video review system. The Oilers lost a challenge on interference which should have went their way and then lost the ability to challenge a obvious off side that led to a goal. The 2 goal slide on a bad system. I hope that in the off season they address this. It makes NHL look like a beer league.

 

[DredJAw]

Agreed.

I love how the NHL GM's opened Pandora's box on themselves with this offside challenge rule.

Nobody was complaining about offside for yearssss... suddenly, this year we have an epidemic of offside rulings and challenges. The best part? They still get half of them wrong somehow.

 

[30ranfordfan]

It's simple... there should be no coaches challenge on offsides... just call back any goal that was scored by result of an offside.

Hire another official, same union and everything, to sit upstairs on watch view of the game. Let him (or her) make calls / reverse calls as needed. Don't waste time with challenges, just get the calls right.

 

[DredJAw]

It's simple... there should be no coaches challenge on offsides... just call back any goal that was scored by result of an offside.

Hire another official, same union and everything, to sit upstairs on watch view of the game. Let him (or her) make calls / reverse calls as needed. Don't waste time with challenges, just get the calls right.

Don't think that changes a thing. Actually could be worse. Now every single goal has the "we await review" aura above it. Similar to football in the last 2 minutes of the game, all scoring plays are reviewed.

This is totally deflating as a fan. You score a goal and then remember "wait! wait a sec! We need to verify if its good." Awful.

The WORST is when the offside occurred 30 seconds before the goal. I remember the Leafs scoring a goal against Wash in round 1 where they had to review and you couldn't even remember the Leafs entering the zone because it happened 30 seconds before the goal.

The answer should take into consideration 'did the opposition touch the puck at ANY point? If yes, then they had a chance to clear' so the offside is nullified kind of thing.

 

[SimonJa]

This drives me crazy. If you need a half hour frame by frame inspection of a possible offside....it was onside folks. My Habs have challenged..and lost some of these exact same play because the evidence was "inconclusive".... and I totally agree with it. If its that close, its a goal. If you are a foot offside....its no goal. C'mon tho, this is getting rediculous. Lol
BUT, if anthing, it really shows just how good these linesman are at their jobs. At the speed of the game today its amazing that they are correct with their calls at such a high percentage.

 

[Bossy22]

Just let the linesmen make the call. Give me a break!!!

 

[TADontAsk]

This drives me crazy. If you need a half hour frame by frame inspection of a possible offside....it was onside folks. My Habs have challenged..and lost some of these exact same play because the evidence was "inconclusive".... and I totally agree with it. If its that close, its a goal. If you are a foot offside....its no goal. C'mon tho, this is getting rediculous.

This is my opinion regarding replays in all sports. The spirit of the replay rule was to reverse the blatantly wrong calls and not have them affect wins and losses. It wasn't meant for the offsides by a hair-length or, in MLB, did he come off the base on a steal for one-tenth of a second. I think if it takes longer than 30 seconds staring at the replay, and you still can't decide, the original call should stand and you get back to action.

As for things like goalie interference, there's just too much subjectivity there. I don't really have a solution for that one, lol.

 

[30ranfordfan]

But if you've got an official watching the game on video upstairs, it shouldn't take that long.

First off, 99.9% of goals (my estimate, no paperwork to back it up) are not scored as the result of an offside.... and probably 99.8% of them are clearly not the result of an offside.

The refs get the call right, most of the time.

The odd time when this happens, delaying the game for a minute or two while the video review ref makes a final call - is that not better than getting the call wrong?

The time players spend with their arms in the air, hugging each other, crashing the boards, and high-fiveing everyone on the bench... that would be more than enough for a replay guy to say "We got a problem, and we need to take a look at it". It might take a little extra time to determine an offside was missed, for sure, but slowing things down for no reason - I don't think it would happen.

This applies to all sports. I understand that people don't want things to drag on - but if a game takes 3 hours to complete... would it not be better if it took 3 hours and 15 minutes, but was officiated correctly? I watch a ton of baseball too, and I'm always amazed when people place value on the "human element" in calls. I see ZERO value in it. Getting the call right, even at the expense of a few minutes, I don't see being a bad thing for hockey, baseball, or anything.

IF that (offside) goal had happened in the last 5 minutes, it would have been called back - because the NHL automatically reviews everything in the last 5 minutes.... I think that's a silly rule. A goal half way through the 2nd is just as important as one in the last 5 minutes.

Don't think that changes a thing. Actually could be worse. Now every single goal has the "we await review" aura above it. Similar to football in the last 2 minutes of the game, all scoring plays are reviewed.

This is totally deflating as a fan. You score a goal and then remember "wait! wait a sec! We need to verify if its good." Awful.

The WORST is when the offside occurred 30 seconds before the goal. I remember the Leafs scoring a goal against Wash in round 1 where they had to review and you couldn't even remember the Leafs entering the zone because it happened 30 seconds before the goal.

The answer should take into consideration 'did the opposition touch the puck at ANY point? If yes, then they had a chance to clear' so the offside is nullified kind of thing.

 

[newfiecomicguy1]

The NHL was deadly for a long time without it. Get rid of it and let the refs and linesmen call it.

 

[Bossy22]

But if you've got an official watching the game on video upstairs, it shouldn't take that long.

First off, 99.9% of goals (my estimate, no paperwork to back it up) are not scored as the result of an offside.... and probably 99.8% of them are clearly not the result of an offside.

The refs get the call right, most of the time.

The odd time when this happens, delaying the game for a minute or two while the video review ref makes a final call - is that not better than getting the call wrong?

The time players spend with their arms in the air, hugging each other, crashing the boards, and high-fiveing everyone on the bench... that would be more than enough for a replay guy to say "We got a problem, and we need to take a look at it". It might take a little extra time to determine an offside was missed, for sure, but slowing things down for no reason - I don't think it would happen.

This applies to all sports. I understand that people don't want things to drag on - but if a game takes 3 hours to complete... would it not be better if it took 3 hours and 15 minutes, but was officiated correctly? I watch a ton of baseball too, and I'm always amazed when people place value on the "human element" in calls. I see ZERO value in it. Getting the call right, even at the expense of a few minutes, I don't see being a bad thing for hockey, baseball, or anything.

IF that (offside) goal had happened in the last 5 minutes, it would have been called back - because the NHL automatically reviews everything in the last 5 minutes.... I think that's a silly rule. A goal half way through the 2nd is just as important as one in the last 5 minutes.

Human element is hockey. Should robots play the game too. 15 more minutes when there's already tones of commercial timeouts would be huge!!! Play the game, refs call the game, we gripe about the calls...that's hockey! Not 3 hours and 15 minutes with more stoppages than playing. If I want to hear people talk while nothing is going on I'll watch football.

 

[Bossy22]

Anyone watching the Edmonton vs Anaheim Series knows instant replay doesn't work anyways. Just get rid of it and go back to the refs making the calls. They'd still be wrong but at least they'll have an excuse.