Not quite sure how I feel about this...

[Rwolfrom]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3688410

Expecting a draft pick from Alexei's death. I suppose I understand but c'mon, really?

 

[SHedberg]

Classier move than when the Sabres suspended Teppo Numminen without pay instead of putting him on the IR when he had his heart problem.

 

[gamebreakers]

Total bush move. The guy died and all you care about is getting an extra 2nd round pick? Brutal

 

[plubers]

Total bush move. The guy died and all you care about is getting an extra 2nd round pick? Brutal

I agree. I can think of better words than brutal but I like hanging out on this site haha :beer:

 

[Kharlamov17]

Good ol' Capitalism. Thumbs up.

 

[DredJAw]

Classier move than when the Sabres suspended Teppo Numminen without pay instead of putting him on the IR when he had his heart problem.

Theres nothing "classy" about either move; poor choice of words.

 

[Nick2317]

they want a pick cause someone died ......yea he wanted to die .....get real

 

[fly4apuckguy]

Total bush move. The guy died and all you care about is getting an extra 2nd round pick? Brutal

Yep, no argument here, a total bush move. Show a little class and move on.

 

[JohnnyDrama]

I can do nothing more than echo the statements already made. Honestly, what the hell was the front office thinking?

 

[fly4apuckguy]

I can do nothing more than echo the statements already made. Honestly, what the hell was the front office thinking?

Glen Sather doesn't give a crap what other people think of him, so he acts in the interest of his team regardless of the consequences. There are two ways to look at that. I think it is without class, but from a "team" point of view, it is probably worth investigating. That doesn't make it morally right, of course.

 

[Triple B]

I heard it on the radio today and couldn't help but laugh. I hope the backlash from this hits whomever thought it was a good idea to make the request square in the ***.

 

[Magootz]

I don't even think Mikey would attempt to defend his team actions on this one.

 

[chadsexington]

Classier move than when the Sabres suspended Teppo Numminen without pay instead of putting him on the IR when he had his heart problem.

Was this for last season? I'm sure that was strictly a salary cap move. Teppo's been interviewed numerous times where he said the Sabres took care of him and his family while the entire situation unfolded and I'm about 99% certain he said in one of the interviews that the organization paid him his regular salary.

It would seem like a sensible business move to me to take someone off your active roster in a salary cap world if they are unable to perform, and pay their salary like they're a member of the office staff.

This move by the Rangers however...

 

[SHedberg]

Was this for last season? I'm sure that was strictly a salary cap move. Teppo's been interviewed numerous times where he said the Sabres took care of him and his family while the entire situation unfolded and I'm about 99% certain he said in one of the interviews that the organization paid him his regular salary.

It would seem like a sensible business move to me to take someone off your active roster in a salary cap world if they are unable to perform, and pay their salary like they're a member of the office staff.

This move by the Rangers however...

They could have freed up the cap space by putting Numminen on the IR... they chose to suspend him so they wouldn't have to give him his paycheque. It just seems more reasonable because we come to expect that sort of thing from Darcy Regeir and Lindy Ruff.

 

[wiseguy917]

Of course it is morally wrong but with all due respects it is still a business....Through my experiences in life some of the most cold and heartless people in the world are those of big business....Most don't reach the top by being compassionate and kind....It's morally wrong and down right inhumane but from a business aspect I don't blame the guy.....

 

[Triple B]

Of course it is morally wrong but with all due respects it is still a business....Through my experiences in life some of the most cold and heartless people in the world are those of big business....Most don't reach the top by being compassionate and kind....It's morally wrong and down right inhumane but from a business aspect I don't blame the guy.....

While I understand your point completely, those are the same folks who justify the existence of PR departments who have to constantly put out the fires created by these "businessmen".

I've dealt with guys like that. Good sense to run a business, but not enough sense to stop and think about the effect their profound "business sense" has on the rest of the business or the people in the organization. No matter who decided this and what the business aspect was, it makes the NEW YORK RANGERS organization look totally bush league.

 

[wiseguy917]

While I understand your point completely, those are the same folks who justify the existence of PR departments who have to constantly put out the fires created by these "businessmen".

I've dealt with guys like that. Good sense to run a business, but not enough sense to stop and think about the effect their profound "business sense" has on the rest of the business or the people in the organization. No matter who decided this and what the business aspect was, it makes the NEW YORK RANGERS organization look totally bush league.

I don't think "bush league" is the proper term for what they did....Immoral, inhumane, insensitive are more like it....If anything it is far from bush league....There's a clause in the NHL's collective bargaining agreement for specific instances just like this which was created by the Player's Association....Although the clause was intended for "injured" players, the language of the rule was not flawless....Now one can assume the Rangers organization was looking for a "loop hole" of sorts or one can assume that the organization thought that "massive injury" includes death....Either way it still sounds immoral but it's in a black and white contract....Let's say Cherepanov got into a terrible car accident and was paralyzed by it....The Rangers would have every right to seek a compensatory draft pick....It would still be a sad situation and would probably still be looked upon as immoral but the clause was put in for reasons just like this....The guys behind this are just doing there job reguardless of how "wrong" some people may find it to be.

 

[Bossy22]

I don't think "bush league" is the proper term for what they did....Immoral, inhumane, insensitive are more like it....If anything it is far from bush league....There's a clause in the NHL's collective bargaining agreement for specific instances just like this which was created by the Player's Association....Although the clause was intended for "injured" players, the language of the rule was not flawless....Now one can assume the Rangers organization was looking for a "loop hole" of sorts or one can assume that the organization thought that "massive injury" includes death....Either way it still sounds immoral but it's in a black and white contract....Let's say Cherepanov got into a terrible car accident and was paralyzed by it....The Rangers would have every right to seek a compensatory draft pick....It would still be a sad situation and would probably still be looked upon as immoral but the clause was put in for reasons just like this....The guys behind this are just doing there job reguardless of how "wrong" some people may find it to be.

I have to agree. My first thought was how stupid they were, but they are looking out for their best interests. Is it tasteful, no. People forget how much hockey is a business.

 

[Hama]

I have to agree. My first thought was how stupid they were, but they are looking out for their best interests. Is it tasteful, no. People forget how much hockey is a business.

Any business that has been run into the ground by James Dolan wouldn't know the meaning of tasteless - since he is the personification of the word. And as mentioned, Sather couldn't care less what anyone else thinks - he wouldn't know what to do with the extra draft pick anyways - he really hasn't had a draft pick come through on his watch for about 15 years - or they'll eventually flame out

 

[timber09]

I personally think this is getting really blown out of proportion - I mean the knee-jerk reaction is to get offended and upset about this but after reflecting for about three seconds I can't see how this is a bad move. They aren't mocking his passing, they are pushing away his memory or disrespecting the family, they are only using the CBA wording to to argue that they are due a compesatory pick.

I honestly don't see how this is heartless or imoral - in my opinion it does not sully the image or honor of the Cherepanov family name or the person/player that he was - there have been far bigger slights put on players and families by the NHL and the Numinen reference is far more despicable in my opinion.