eBay Sellers... Dishonest or Misinformed?

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So I'm on eBay looking at singles for my OPC Winter Classic set. I'm coming across an awful lot of people using the SP term for cards 1-30 and these ARE NOT short printed. Now I know people constantly do this, but there are a few of them who are also throwing in bizarre BVs on cards too. I think it's card 10 (Crosby) that is one of the commons but has a BV of 20 because it's Sid. There is one seller listing this card as a SP and saying that the BV is 80. The highest SPs in this set book for 60! Is anyone else really annoyed by this or am I irrational? When I see stuff like this I feel like sending the seller a message asking where in the world they go the information. Tell me I'm not crazy!

-David
 
File 'em and forget 'em. There's a lot of wacky folks out there. Back in the spring there was a guy with a hard BIN (he did have a best offer feature but flat out said to me that it wasn't really going to be followed) of $30 on an Andrei Kostitsyn Black Diamond Gemography. I sent him a note saying that it booked for 8 and I'd give him the usual selling rate of $5. He replied by saying that he expected the card to jump up in value and that he was quite prepared to hang on to it until the new season started. I'm more than willing to wager that his preparations were fulfilled.

And remember, it's eBay, the place where a Malkin card #'d 87/100 will be listed as a 1/1 because it's got Crosby's jersey number on it.
 
Hey Dave, before buying anything do a little research. People are trying to make a fast buck. It goes the same if you're selling as well, do a little research. You're going to get scammers and low ballers everywhere.
I say a 51-52 Parkie reprint of Gordie Howe listed as his rookie card, someone actually paid $250.00 for it, probably a present, but just beware, you know the price and what you're willing to pay.
BTW cards will be mailed Monday, Dan
 
most of them are simply dishonest.

Instead of going with "SP" which is a term officially used by Upper Deck and Beckett to denote a short printed card, sellers should instead use other tags like "rare" or "HTF" that aren't official SPs.
 
There's one guy from Ohio who constantly throws dollar amounts in auction titles or subtitles where there are no book values. Presumably, he tries to set people's expectations on what they should bid.

As far as setting SPs where they are not...well, SP is an arbitrary term. Winter Classic cards are SPs relative to say, base singles. It's about as accurate as quad patch of 4 dudes from the same team is a 12 Color patch card, because they have 4, 3-color patches. Or calling a jersey swatch a "patch".

Those people are dicks, and they're the reason eBay is great for charlatans.

-m.
 
A little from column A, a little from column B. Most sellers who use such tactics are just trying to increase the selling price of their cards ( as a side note that guy from Ohio irks me with his made up BV's).
 
There's one guy from Ohio who constantly throws dollar amounts in auction titles or subtitles where there are no book values. Presumably, he tries to set people's expectations on what they should bid.

As far as setting SPs where they are not...well, SP is an arbitrary term. Winter Classic cards are SPs relative to say, base singles. It's about as accurate as quad patch of 4 dudes from the same team is a 12 Color patch card, because they have 4, 3-color patches. Or calling a jersey swatch a "patch".

Those people are dicks, and they're the reason eBay is great for charlatans.

-m.

Ah, had to jump into this one. I know the seller you mean, Chad Smith, aka Wolverine24. He recently bought a card from me, which I see he has finally re-listed, just as you said - with dollar amounts and other catchy things that aren't true (card has 3 jersey pieces on it - yet listing says patch). Also - I had to send him a payment reminder as he uses queencitysportscards to purchase items. ugh.
 
It seems you get a bit of both lately. I questioned a seller about a OPC retro blank back that looked to be cut from a box bottom. The listing said it was a blank back and the seller apologized saying it was from a box bottom, but did have a "blank back" so it was he listing was correct. He recommended that I should not bid on the auction if I was looking for a "real" blank back. WTF?? I kept the auction on my watch list and he still sold the card.
 

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