Metrags
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The NHL acknowledged that Auger spoke to Burrows pregame, but did not know what was said. Doesnt the first part of that statement make Auger guilty of some sort of misconduct? Even if they cant prove anything?
Stephane Auger vs. Alex Burrows
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kmitchel
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There is no misconduct in talking to a player before the game. It could've been about the weather for all we know or what peeler bar to go to after the game. Given what came out after the fact, it certainly is questionable, but there's nothing specifically damning about the incident.
However, it's a shame that Burrows wasn't miked for the game or this would've been a whole new type of interesting.
Kevin
sprague11
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No Official punishment by the NHL, but I Don't think we'll be seeing Auger in too many playoff games this year.
not like we've seen him in many to begin with!
not like we've seen him in many to begin with!
Stadium Sports
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He is in the NHL. Not exactly an easy accomplishment in itself.
Lucky for us, people are guilty even if it's only in the court of public opinion.
thecooker24
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I just saw Ron Macleans comments about the incident and I can't believe I am saying this, but I have lost most of the respect I had for Macleans journalism skils. What a joke he was with his 1 on 1 interview with Campbell. I used to think Maclean was somewhat of a Canadian sport icon, now I am not sure what to think about him...
scramboni
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I will second the MacLean comment as well... I just cannot believe what was said prior to Hockey Night In Canada. Talk about a completely one-sided character assassination of Alex Burrows with a video montage with old clips that could be compiled of any player in the league that plays hard. Even Colin Campbell didn't quite know how to react to most of the questions, video, and conclusions MacLean had come up with for the 11 minute butchering of Alexandre Burrows, Coach Vigneault and the overall disrespect of the Vancouver Canucks organization.
The whole thing was just one meaning-less point after another by MacLean who just couldn't not hold back for most of the 11 minutes, going from commentator/host to a biased referee himself. But, hey good on Vigneault for getting on after-hours for a very well-spoken rebuttal to leave for MacLean to chew on, way after the fact. The CBC segment on Burrows should have been represented by some one within the Canucks organization or a representative of Burrows so that the "Court of Ron" could not pass judgment on a defenseless Vancouver Canuck.
Anyways, Auger will not referee another Canucks game this year, and you can bank on that! I just hope that he doesn't screw-up any other team chances of winning important hockey games and affect their chances of making the NHL playoffs.
The whole thing was just one meaning-less point after another by MacLean who just couldn't not hold back for most of the 11 minutes, going from commentator/host to a biased referee himself. But, hey good on Vigneault for getting on after-hours for a very well-spoken rebuttal to leave for MacLean to chew on, way after the fact. The CBC segment on Burrows should have been represented by some one within the Canucks organization or a representative of Burrows so that the "Court of Ron" could not pass judgment on a defenseless Vancouver Canuck.
Anyways, Auger will not referee another Canucks game this year, and you can bank on that! I just hope that he doesn't screw-up any other team chances of winning important hockey games and affect their chances of making the NHL playoffs.
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es_19
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maclean is a ref himself so you might be right - i think he may have went in on this with a slightly skewed perspective
scramboni
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Up until Saturday night I had the utmost respect for the guy and then he has to go and say stuff that was stupid and completely biased. He might want to invest in a big hat, glasses, and grow some facial hair before he arrives for the big hockey tournament come February.
bmoy88
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My take on the matter:
- The time between the Dec 8th game and the Jan 11th game was over a month.
- The Canucks had played 15 games between those 2 games.
- Burrow's rant was immediately after the game.
Based on the timing of these 3 facts, I would have to conclude that Auger, did in fact have it in for Burrows. My theory is that Burrows had probably forgotten who was refereeing the Dec 8th game. All he knows is he had his clock rung and that the league did not call a suspension on the Pred who hit him. No need for Burrows to mark a bullseye on Auger (Auger's call favored Burrows - it was the league's call to negate any suspension).
15 games had been played by the Canucks between the 2 games. In those 15 games, 30 referees and 30 linesmen would have been involved - who can remember all 60 of them? Heck, I can't even remember who reffed my last 2 Monday night oldtimers league games! That's a whole lot of officials for Burrows to sort out.
For Burrows to say what he said, he would have had to finish the game, race to the dressing room, concoct the story in his mind, background check the Dec 8 game film and then jump on the bike and wait for the reporters. I believe too short a time to create the "perfect" scenario.
Hey, but I ain't no Sherlock Holmes!
- The time between the Dec 8th game and the Jan 11th game was over a month.
- The Canucks had played 15 games between those 2 games.
- Burrow's rant was immediately after the game.
Based on the timing of these 3 facts, I would have to conclude that Auger, did in fact have it in for Burrows. My theory is that Burrows had probably forgotten who was refereeing the Dec 8th game. All he knows is he had his clock rung and that the league did not call a suspension on the Pred who hit him. No need for Burrows to mark a bullseye on Auger (Auger's call favored Burrows - it was the league's call to negate any suspension).
15 games had been played by the Canucks between the 2 games. In those 15 games, 30 referees and 30 linesmen would have been involved - who can remember all 60 of them? Heck, I can't even remember who reffed my last 2 Monday night oldtimers league games! That's a whole lot of officials for Burrows to sort out.
For Burrows to say what he said, he would have had to finish the game, race to the dressing room, concoct the story in his mind, background check the Dec 8 game film and then jump on the bike and wait for the reporters. I believe too short a time to create the "perfect" scenario.
Hey, but I ain't no Sherlock Holmes!
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sprague11
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McClain was merely taking the side of a fellow ref. He was also wrong.
scramboni
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Ron MacLean is taking his shots from the Burrows family and rightfully so! I hope he now realizes you should think before you speak, especially on national tv. Time will heal all wounds but the CBC needs to be a little more aware of the west-coast's perception of these broadcasters. We are the second biggest market according to the CBC and we should be a little more appreciated in the bigger picture. All I'm saying is, don't butcher one of our players for 11 solid minutes on national tv and expect all this media storm to just go away, HNIC will have to make serious positive strides to make the Vancouver audience forgive them.
scramboni
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I am at the point now where I just want this thing to die and then Gary Bettman has to attend tonights game in Edmonton and say that he rejected the phantom call against Burrows. I really can't wait till this guy is gone and they get someone in there with common sense and an actual brain and understands how to operate and run the NHL.
the link: http://www.teamradio.ca/news/story/?id=2748
the link: http://www.teamradio.ca/news/story/?id=2748
Kehfee
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You see that sweet dive from Raymond last night? Helped win the game.
FASTMAX
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Bingo. I was thinking about this thread as I was watching the game. Maybe Raymond will be on the "hit list" next. lol. Seriously though, how many Canucks fans that whine about bad calls (I'm not saying Auger was right in any way , IF he said anything to Burrows) will be here to defend the calls last night. The "phantom hook" or the non "headshot hit" call in the corner last night on Smid. Reffing is aweful around the league regardless of who you are sometimes. The sooner Burrows realizes that the better.
canucksfreak19
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I was at the game last night, and there were calls that were missed or blown on both sides. You mentioned the ones that benefitted the Canuxks, true. But Moreau's hit on Henrik was the exact same hit, jumped into it. And the hook, hold, hook on Kesler as he went in short-handed. The reffing all around is just not great right now. Period.
Kehfee
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Yeah this is a lame cop out.
Reffing was awful and it killed Edmonton. Henrik's high stick that cut Pisani right in front of the ref was a non-call, Bernier's elbow, the charge on Smid that will probably keep him out of games.
Sure fans of all teams have issues with officials, which makes it hilarious that Canucks fans and media went ape-* on that Burrows/Auger nonsense.
On edit. Fans of Edmonton would be more outraged if it actually mattered but everyone is firmly onboard for this "Fall for Hall" thing they got going.
canucksfreak19
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So it is okay for Oilers fans to be upset?
I don't think that Auger cost the Canucks that game, I don't think the refs cost the Oilers the game last night. I'm just telling you how I see it call it a cop out, call it whatever you want. But your whining about the game last night does not give support to your argument in my opinion.
So again you're listing three non-calls on the Canucks, and I listed two non-calls on the Oilers you're right. The Oilers were right screwed
please spare me.
Six pages and I'm the opinion that this has run it's course...
Especially as the original game occurred last week.
Especially as the original game occurred last week.
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