Your teams best on ice team ever?

Hmm, I'll try the Caps here:

Goalie: Olaf Kolzig (97-98 to 2000-01)
Defense: This is a toughy..probably Rod Langway and Mike Green, with Scott Stevens and Larry Murphy very close behind.
Offense: LW - Ovechkin; C - Adam Oates or Dale Hunter; RW - Peter Bondra
 
suitman19 said:
I think that would be based on his imporatance to the Wings at the EXACT time he arrived. He was the piece to the puzzle. I could argue that he won one more than Forsberg - but that would be futile. I think - without going to the stat boards - that if you matched up Shanny's stats with the Wings to Forsbergs - that they are closer than you would imagine.

He was the sniper on the Wings - and yet he was also one of the protectors - and that was on a team that featured two pretty good 'toughies' in their own right. That is a dimension that Forsberg never brought...... he did his best work from below the belt:foottap:

Shanny was not the best in the league as Forsberg may have been - but he was damn close in talent levels. Considering he was the left wing on the left wing lock defensive system his offensive stats are dowright amazing.

bruce
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Bruce, I'mma offer this up in your defense. I'd rather have Shanahan in his prime scoring 50 goals, 50 assists and notching 200 penalty minutes in a season while digging down deep, playing hard and working hard for his teammates than a guy who plays 3/4 of a season healthy if we're lucky on knees made of butter, and dives more often than Greg Louganis.

It might just be my lifelong disdain for Forsberg speaking though :rolleyes:
 
chadsexington said:
Bruce, I'mma offer this up in your defense. I'd rather have Shanahan in his prime scoring 50 goals, 50 assists and notching 200 penalty minutes in a season while digging down deep, playing hard and working hard for his teammates than a guy who plays 3/4 of a season healthy if we're lucky on knees made of butter, and dives more often than Greg Louganis.

It might just be my lifelong disdain for Forsberg speaking though :rolleyes:
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Matt - Exactly!!!!
I do not have anything against Forsberg's Hockey skills, but I think he hurts his team time and time again with his questionable play (read dirty). Forsberg scored less goals than Shanny - but had far more assists. The plus/minus was nearly equal - but the penalty minutes that Shanny took were for more agreeable than Forsbergs'.

I could bring up this number:
Shanahan :stanley::stanley::stanley:
Forsberg :stanley::stanley:

But that would be childish!!!
Bottom line is for the Red Wings - Shanahan was the perfect player at the perfect time.

bruce
 
LecavalierFan said:
Hmm, I'll try the Caps here:

Goalie: Olaf Kolzig (97-98 to 2000-01)
Defense: This is a toughy..probably Rod Langway and Mike Green, with Scott Stevens and Larry Murphy very close behind.
Offense: LW - Ovechkin; C - Adam Oates or Dale Hunter; RW - Peter Bondra
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How about Stevens with everyone else not even close behind? :D

Ovechkin is amazing, best LW ever.
 
First my nostalgic variety (because they were past their prime but still noteworthy names)
Forwards: Gordie Howe, Bobby Hull, Dave Keon
Defense: Mark Howe, Paul Coffey
Goal: Sean Burke

Top line based on performance while wearing the franchise jersey:
Forwards: Ron Francis, Eric Staal, Brendan Shanahan
Defence: Glen Wesley, Mark Howe
Goal: Cam Ward

:canes: HOW about those HURRICANES!!!!! :canes:
 
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suitman19 said:
Matt - Exactly!!!!
I do not have anything against Forsberg's Hockey skills, but I think he hurts his team time and time again with his questionable play (read dirty). Forsberg scored less goals than Shanny - but had far more assists. The plus/minus was nearly equal - but the penalty minutes that Shanny took were for more agreeable than Forsbergs'.

I could bring up this number:
Shanahan :stanley::stanley::stanley:
Forsberg :stanley::stanley:

But that would be childish!!!
Bottom line is for the Red Wings - Shanahan was the perfect player at the perfect time.

bruce
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Yeah, we all forgot there's never been a Red Wing that played dirty, right? Gordon Howe wasn't called Mr. Elbows for nothing.

And if you tallied up Gold Medals with Stanley Silver they'd be even, right?
 
x26stastny26x said:
Yeah, we all forgot there's never been a Red Wing that played dirty, right? Gordon Howe wasn't called Mr. Elbows for nothing.

And if you tallied up Gold Medals with Stanley Silver they'd be even, right?
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Me thinks you had better do some more homework on that one.:dance::dance:

Brendan Shanahan
# 1991 Canada Cup (gold medal)
# 1994 World Championships (gold medal)
# 2002 Winter Olympics (gold medal)
 
suitman19 said:
Me thinks you had better do some more homework on that one.:dance::dance:

Brendan Shanahan
# 1991 Canada Cup (gold medal)
# 1994 World Championships (gold medal)
# 2002 Winter Olympics (gold medal)
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Damn Red Wings fans always want to get in a pissing contest.... I was only counting Olympic Gold but, hey, that's fine!!!

Peter Forsberg
1992 World Championships - Gold
1994 Winter Olympics - Gold
1998 World Championships - Gold
2006 Winter Olympics - Gold

:dance::dance::dance:

If you are going to do the homework, do it right.... and complete!!
 
I cant do all the legwork - I am trying to watch the college basketball games!!!!
Not a pissing contest - just not a fan of the player.

Yep - Howe was dirty - but that was a different game,different era.
Tough guys actually had to be able to play the game - not exist on bloated rosters.

But Howe would at least stand up to a player - Forsberg ALWAYS ran - and usually retaliated from behind with his stick or other bodily weapons.
 
suitman19 said:
Forsberg ALWAYS ran - and usually retaliated from behind with his stick or other bodily weapons.
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Yeah I can see your dislike of the player leads to your biased opinions or actual lack of knowledge in what you speak/write. Forsberg could hit with the best of them. And I've NEVER seen him RUN from a confrontation. His competitive nature is what got him into trouble taking tons of offsetting penalties because he refused to turn the cheek and run. He and the team would have been better off if he did run away.

And why shouldn't he use his stick the way hundreds of players used their sticks against him? Like the hosts of Red Wings have???? You actually want to talk about a player that runs and uses his stick on people talk about Maltby. :dance::dance::dance:
 
Jets
C - Dale Hawerchuk
LW - Bobby Hull
RW - Teemu Selanne
D - Randy Carlyle
D - Phil Housley
G - Nikolai Khabibulin

Coyotes
C - Shane Doan
LW - Keith Tkachuk
RW - Rick Tocchet
D - Teppo Numminen
D - Oleg Tverdovsky
G - Sean Burke

Sabres
C - Adam Mair
LW - Eric Boulton
RW - Rob Ray
D - Jim Schoenfeld
D - Bob Boughner
G - Dominik Hasek
 
marvelman55 said:
No problem!

Center- Wayne Gretzky

Right Wing- Jari Kurri

Left Wing- Mark Messier (played LW in his early years)

Defense- Paul Coffey

Defense- (Oh god I hate to say this) Chris Pronger (OOWWW, that hurts!)

Goalie- Grant Fuhr, Backup Goalie- Curtis Joseph
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This was fun, so I'm going to expand and do the all time Oilers team

1st Line
RW- Jari Kurri, C- Wayne Gretzky, LW- Ryan Smyth

2nd Line
RW- Glenn Anderson, C- Mark Messier LW- Esa Tikkanen

3rd Line
RW- Ales Hemsky, C- Doug Weight, LW- Craig Simpson

4th Line
RW-Bill Guerin, C- Craig MacTavish, LW- Ethan Moreau

Defense 1
Paul Coffey/Kevin Lowe (I decided to exile Pronger)

Defense 2
Charilie Huddy/Jason Smith

Defense 3
Lee Fogolin/Randy Gregg

Goal
Grant Fuhr (starter)
Curtis Joseph (backup)
Bill Ranford (pressbox in case of injury)

Healthy Scratches- Steve Smith (D), Shawn Horcoff (F), Kelly Buchberger (F)
 
wingnut888 said:
Where's the greatest name in hockey history "Ed Beers"???? :D Seriously though, Flames fans have to come strong with Mike Vernon. The guy won you a cup after all!! :) Also where's Joel Otto on this list..:D
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The only list Otto belongs on is biggest bums ever!!!!
Picks:

G- Vernon
D- Macinnis
D- Regehr
F- Iginla
F- Fleury
F- Neiuwendyk

I hate leaving out Joey Mullen but what can you do.....
 
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Try playing against this team

All time Penguins team

1st Line
RW- Jagr , C -Mario Lemieux, LW- Kevin Stevens

2nd Line
RW- Marian Hossa , C-Sidney Crosby LW- Evgeni Malkin

3rd Line
RW- Rick Tocchet, C- Ron Francis , LW- Luc Robitaille

4th Line
RW-Alexei Kovalev, C- Jordan Staal, LW- Markus Naslund

Defense 1
Paul Coffey/Darius Kasparaitis

Defense 2
Sergei Gonchar/Larry Murphy

Defense 3
Kevin Hatcher/Ulf Samuelsson

GoalTom Barrasso/Marc-Andre Fleury

Healthy Scratches- Sergei Zubov(D), Mark Recchi (F), Joe Mullen (F)
 
Ok Ill give this a shot. Let me know if you have heard of any of these players;
Goal - Broda, as good a money goalie as there ever was. Bower would be my backup.
Defence - Horton, King Clancy. One to rush, the other to crush.
Right Wing - Charlie Conacher
Centre - Dave Keon
Left Wing - Frank Mahovlich

Coach Hap Day.

Realize that half of these guys died before most on this board were born, but that would be an amazing team to watch.
 

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