Official 2008 NHL Entry Draft Thread

4Ant4 said:
No offence taken Ern, just giving my opinion of the guy. I watched a lot of defensemen come through the WHL lately Weber, Phaneuf, Seabrook, Byfuglien, Barker, Hamhuis, etc and all I'm saying is Schenn is not even close talent wise. Maybe that changes, but my opinion after seeing the type of talent on D that comes from the WHL, I don't see him even being a Brendan Witt type talent. Hell, Matthew Spiller was 5 times the players Schenn is in the WHL, and look what happened to him. The only reason he's getting a sniff of the NHL is because he's on the island. The Coyotes wouldn't even give him a job, and they spent the high draft pick on him! Zach FitzGerald hit 10 times harder then Schenn, fought more then Schenn, and was one of the most feared D-men in the WHL, he's struggling to make it.

It's just an opinion based on what I've seen of the guy compared to other d-men. My opinion, giving up 3 picks and taking him 5 was a huge stretch. The NHL is faster, smaller, and more skilled. You don't see many Derian Hatcher's drafted into the NHL anymore, and that's what I think of when I watch Schenn.
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Your opinion is all well and good, but I think I'm going to base my opinion on what the Pro's think, not an armchair scout like myself. If you are correct then there are A LOT of people that should be out of jobs right now.

EDIT: Just because you are in WHL country, doesn't mean a thing. I'm in OHL country, doesn't mean I know how good everyone is, THat's liek me saying "bogosian just isn't that could, his hits are mild at best and his shot is completely inaccurate, he's Steve Eminger at best, and remember, I'm in OHL country and I've seen more talent come thru here liek Valabik,Lashoff, Kindl, Eminger, Syvret and look at how much trouble they've been having."

I don't actully think that but it's the same type of thing, jsut because you are from that area doesn't mean you know so much more about this one kid.

From everything I've seen and heard, he COULD make the team next year and could turn into a top 2 shutdown expert.
 
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NoThreat said:
Your opinion is all well and good, but I think I'm going to base my opinion on what the Pro's think, not an armchair scout like myself. If you are correct then there are A LOT of people that should be out of jobs right now.

EDIT: Just because you are in WHL country, doesn't mean a thing. I'm in OHL country, doesn't mean I know how good everyone is, THat's liek me saying "bogosian just isn't that could, his hits are mild at best and his shot is completely inaccurate, he's Steve Eminger at best, and remember, I'm in OHL country and I've seen more talent come thru here liek Valabik,Lashoff, Kindl, Eminger, Syvret and look at how much trouble they've been having."

I don't actully think that but it's the same type of thing, jsut because you are from that area doesn't mean you know so much more about this one kid.

From everything I've seen and heard, he COULD make the team next year and could turn into a top 2 shutdown expert.
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I'm not a scout, wish I was but oh well. I don't claim to know everything about every player in the WHL, but I follow the West teams very closely and talk to a lot of the NHL scouts that attend games here. I hope Schenn does pan out and earn his spot for where he was drafted, he is nice kid. My opinion is not unfounded, I heard the same thing from a number of scouts. Like I said, I hope I'm wrong and he's the next Scott Stevens. Problem is, if he does turn out to be a stud, the Leafs will trade him for a European winger like Ponikarovsky before he reaches his full potential. :D
 
Problem is, if he does turn out to be a stud, the Leafs will trade him for a European winger like Ponikarovsky before he reaches his full potential. :D[/QUOTE]

Tony, I hope that doesn't happen,lol, but it wouldn't be the first time, for sure.

Dan.
 
4Ant4 said:
My happiness as a Hawks fan who thought the team was moving in the right direction, just turned to pure disgust. They took the one guy ranked in the top 12 who I absolutely did not want them to take. They were doing so well lately, Barker, Byfuglien, Keith, Seabrook, Skille, Kane, Toews.............. KYLE FREAKIN BEACH? :|:|:|:|

I've watched every game this kid has played the last two years, and he is a complete WASTE of an 11th overall pick. He will never see the NHL ice, and the way he's going he will have to retire from hockey from too many concussions within the next 3 years. He is a meathead who thinks he is a pwer forward who can fight, but he's lost every fight he's ever been in. He is probably the most hated player in the WHL, even the Everett fans can't stand him.

The Wings win another stinkin cup and the Hawks draft Kyle Beach. The Crown Royale started flowing heavily about an hour ago. :mad:
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Tony,
I'm not so sure you won't change your mind on this guy. The Hawks have a ton of young, small, speedy type guys but no real power players to speak of. I could see Beach fitting right in with Kane & Toews. If they keep his attitude in check, he just might turn out to be a great addition to the team. Plus, he'll be a bonus if he gets under opponents' skin. I would have welcomed him on the Sens' roster
 

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