Patrick Kane potentially in trouble again

"Sedita said he doesn't think the mother did anything illegal because it's not illegal to lie to her daughter's lawyer and she wasn't under oath when interviewed by his office."

Wow, so it's not illegal to create a hoax during an investigation like this when a guy is on public trial for one of the most egregious of crimes? Brilliant......
 
MMarch said:
"Sedita said he doesn't think the mother did anything illegal because it's not illegal to lie to her daughter's lawyer and she wasn't under oath when interviewed by his office."

Wow, so it's not illegal to create a hoax during an investigation like this when a guy is on public trial for one of the most egregious of crimes? Brilliant......
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Agree with you here.

He's basically saying she didn't do anything illegal technically, but she's a huge moron. Way to go :devil:
 
MMarch said:
"Sedita said he doesn't think the mother did anything illegal because it's not illegal to lie to her daughter's lawyer and she wasn't under oath when interviewed by his office."

Wow, so it's not illegal to create a hoax during an investigation like this when a guy is on public trial for one of the most egregious of crimes? Brilliant......
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There's a lot of really stupid and/or immoral things that people do that aren't crimes.

This is all sideshow/noise/malarkey going on. None of it actually affects the core issue here. Though the alleged victim's lawyer resigned, he did say that he doesn't feel as though the actual core of the matter has been cast into doubt. You can't fault the daughter for the sins of the mother...as it were.
 
So should we assume an out of court settlement is now not an option? If I were Kane (making the assumption this will all soon be over) I would seek the option of a counter lawsuit. Something tells me he just wants this (negative attention) all to be over and quick.
 
kmitchel said:
By Odin's beard, this better be turned in to an episode of Law and Order or CSI or something.
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Ripped from the headlines . . . Dun, Dun.

cburt said:
:beer::beer::beer: :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Anybody remember Mike Hammer? He'd get to the bottom of this case. But Hammer's womanizing ways usually sidetracked him, so maybe lets stick to Magnum or Matlock.
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Hunter, has to be Hunter.

losman#99 said:
When cheering for your player/team goes a little too far

http://patch.com/illinois/elmhurst/reporter-covering-patrick-kane-case-kept-work-twitter-threats-0

Stay Classy
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Every fan base has the rotten ones. I really wish that people that act like that on Twitter could be held accountable.
 
canucksfreak19 said:
Every fan base has the rotten ones. I really wish that people that act like that on Twitter could be held accountable.
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Amen to that. Social media has a massive pool of idiots who feel invincible and above the law (or even human decency). I am not shocked by this unfortunately, especially given all the drama with 670 The Score in Chicago. Their radio hosts have been brutal in regards to Kane and the Blackhawks, some of them already wanted him in an electric chair before the facts started coming out. I'm surprised we haven't seen more of this, they seriously ticked off the fan base in Chicago, so much that for almost an entire day they shut down their feedback and email systems because they were being flooded by angry people. It's not just the idiots on Tweeter or Facebook that need to be accountable, ALL media people should be accountable for how they incite the public with bad information.
 
Hama said:
In any case, it doesn't look good. His lawyer's statement that his DNA was nowhere to be found below her waist, doesn't inspire confidence either...

It may exonarate him criminally - but really is that the kind of statement you want to make when declaring yourself innocent? Draw your own conclusions...
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Lawyers can say anything they want but let us not forget, this went to the grand jury. That requires the police establishing a case against the accused.

On the flip side, Kobe was never convicted...... I'm sure he never did it either.
 
pathshot said:
That's a cruel and bold assertion.
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No - if you read the story it is a very real conclusion.
Her story did not hold up to the re-tells - they dropped any inclination to even proceed with an indictment. Not 'still under investigation' , there is no validity to the claims.
 
suitman19 said:
No - if you read the story it is a very real conclusion.
Her story did not hold up to the re-tells - they dropped any inclination to even proceed with an indictment. Not 'still under investigation' , there is no validity to the claims.
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Exactly.....we should talk about how great a season Pat is off to. My gut tells me this was a huge wakeup call for Kane and he will learn a lesson about the company he keeps going forward.
 
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suitman19 said:
No - if you read the story it is a very real conclusion.
Her story did not hold up to the re-tells - they dropped any inclination to even proceed with an indictment. Not 'still under investigation' , there is no validity to the claims.
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It got as far as a Grand Jury, and she's stopped cooperating because of the way the investigation is turning. It doesn't mean no crime is committed, but the cavalier attitude of calling her a "gold digger" is beyond uncool.

Until the Grand Jury event, there was no negotiation of any kind. We've never once heard she would make this go away for $X. A civil suit was never filed.

It's his conclusion. If it's yours too, I'm glad I don't know you.
 
Sorry you feel that way about me - without knowing who I am.

But I will correct one of your statements.

The prosecutor would not even take it to the grand jury (quoting the article here: http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/14057509/patrick-kane-chicago-blackhawks-face-rape-charges)


He said he will not present the case to a grand jury for possible charges.

1) investigation found that physical and forensic evidence "tend to contradict" the accuser's claim
2) reasons for dropping the case include "significant material inconsistencies" in the accounts of the accuser and other witnesses and that physical evidence tended "to contradict" her claim that she was raped on Kane's bed.
3) The case took a strange turn in September when the accuser's lawyer quit the case after the woman's mother was allegedly involved in a hoax designed to cast doubts on how the police handled the DNA evidence in the case.

Sorry - but when the evidence tends to contradict the accusers claim, I am pretty sure that the general feeling is that no crime was committed. As far as being a gold digger - the definition of a gold digger is someone who associates or marries for material gain.
I just happen to equate a fame seeker with the same qualities.

Not that I like or dislike Kane - but in this case I am pretty sure he was being targeted by this young woman. The prosecutor did not say he was not charging Kane at this time - he said he was not charging him. She stopped co-operating because the evidence was showing her to be untruthful.
 
suitman19 said:
Sorry you feel that way about me - without knowing who I am.

But I will correct one of your statements.

The prosecutor would not even take it to the grand jury (quoting the article here: http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/14057509/patrick-kane-chicago-blackhawks-face-rape-charges)


He said he will not present the case to a grand jury for possible charges.

1) investigation found that physical and forensic evidence "tend to contradict" the accuser's claim
2) reasons for dropping the case include "significant material inconsistencies" in the accounts of the accuser and other witnesses and that physical evidence tended "to contradict" her claim that she was raped on Kane's bed.
3) The case took a strange turn in September when the accuser's lawyer quit the case after the woman's mother was allegedly involved in a hoax designed to cast doubts on how the police handled the DNA evidence in the case.

Sorry - but when the evidence tends to contradict the accusers claim, I am pretty sure that the general feeling is that no crime was committed. As far as being a gold digger - the definition of a gold digger is someone who associates or marries for material gain.
I just happen to equate a fame seeker with the same qualities.

Not that I like or dislike Kane - but in this case I am pretty sure he was being targeted by this young woman. The prosecutor did not say he was not charging Kane at this time - he said he was not charging him. She stopped co-operating because the evidence was showing her to be untruthful.
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The Grand Jury was scheduled, then cancelled. The reason shared publicly was because there were negotiations happening. And then the case fell apart.

There's a lot of reasons why her story might not have added up or made sense. It's a traumatic event. There could be mental illness issues present too.

I'm not saying that it's impossible that this was her intention, but when people leap from the lack of evidence to try him to "gold digger", it hurts the victims of sexual assault. Only 7% of rapes actually lead to arrest. (Source: https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates)

This is a touchy area, and to be so brazen in concluding that she had to be a "gold digger" when so much is unknown is very, very harmful to discourse on the topic. We have to respect that we don't know what really happened here.
 
TheGriceBoys said:
Well D, guess you'll have to tell Ryan O'Reilly to lead the Sabres to their first so you guys can enjoy it another time.

Oh wait. :laugh:

Just like everyone else in this world tied to a "charge", I'll wait until I hear the whole story and the gavel comes down.
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No gavel even raised, moving right along...............
 
in this case I think it's pretty clear she was looking for money. If she did in fact get raped I doubt she would go this far and then decide against it. If there was a case the DA would've went through with it. I have 4 daughters, a wife , a sister and many female cousins. If he did rape her I'll be the first one in line to hang him. But it's pretty clear to me what her intentions were.

pathshot said:
The Grand Jury was scheduled, then cancelled. The reason shared publicly was because there were negotiations happening. And then the case fell apart.

There's a lot of reasons why her story might not have added up or made sense. It's a traumatic event. There could be mental illness issues present too.

I'm not saying that it's impossible that this was her intention, but when people leap from the lack of evidence to try him to "gold digger", it hurts the victims of sexual assault. Only 7% of rapes actually lead to arrest. (Source: https://rainn.org/get-information/statistics/reporting-rates)

This is a touchy area, and to be so brazen in concluding that she had to be a "gold digger" when so much is unknown is very, very harmful to discourse on the topic. We have to respect that we don't know what really happened here.
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